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Samay samay ki baat hai..

Posted by Sudeep Pandey on June 2, 2017

हम लोग कमाल के समय में जी रहे हैं.
बचपन में माताजी एक कथा सुनाती थीं: कोई अगर आप से कहे कि कौवा आपकी नाक ले कर उड़ गया, तो पहले अपनी नाक देखनी चाहिए, ना कि कौवे के पीछे भागना शुरू कर दें.. भैया आपकी नाक अपनी जगह पे ही लगी है.

आज के समय में, हम अपने पूर्वाग्रह से इतने ज़्यादा ग्रसित हैं कि हम सिर्फ़ कौवे को पत्थर मारना चाहते हैं. भले वो मेरी नाक ले कर उड़ा है या किसी और की, या फिर वो बेचारा सिर्फ़ घड़े का पानी पीने के लिए पत्थर जुटा रहा है, हमें कोई फ़र्क नहीँ पड़ता. और तो और, यह कौवे और इस एक आदमी की लड़ाई राष्ट्रीय आपदा बन जाती है, तथा ३० ओबी वेन, ४० कैमेरे, और ५० रिपोर्टेर आपको लाइव टेली कास्ट भी दिखाएँगे. फिर, तुलसी बाबा के शब्दों में “जाकी रही भावना जैसी, हरि मूरत तिन देखी तैसी”, संपूर्ण राष्ट्र दो धड़ों मे बँट जाएगा. आधी दुनिया कौवे को बुरा बताएगी बाकी आधी उस आदमी को. और साहब, एक बार हमने राय कायम कर ली, तो कर ली!! अब तो जंग है… पूरे लाव लश्कर के साथ जुट जाएँगे फ़ेसबुक और ट्विटर पे, यह साबित करने को, कि हम कैसे सही हैं. शायद उस से भी ज़्यादा ज़रूरी यह साबित करना होता है कि तुम कैसे ग़लत हो. कैसे कैसे अनर्गल प्रलाप!!

सूचना संचार क्रांति के इस दौर में, जब कि यह अपेक्षित था कि तमाम जानकारियाँ सहज सुलभ उपलब्ध हों, और एक आम इंसान एक सूचित राय कायम कर सके, हम अपने पशुवत प्रवृत्तियों से बाहर नहीं आ पा रहे हैं, यह बहुत अफ़सोस की बात है. दुष्यंत कुमार की पंक्तियाँ याद आती हैं:

कहाँ तो तय था चिरागा हर एक घर के लिए,
यहाँ चिराग मयस्सर नहीं शहर के लिए.

शायद दिनकर जी ने यह कुरुक्षेत्र पहले ही देख लिया था जब उन्होने लिखा था:

सावधान मनुष्य यदि विज्ञान है तलवार .
तो उसे दे छोड़, तजकर मोह स्मृति के पार |
हो चुका है सिद्ध कि तू है शिशु अभी नादान,
फूल काँटों की तुझे कुछ भी नहीं पहचान,
खेल सकता तू नहीं ले हाथ में तलवार ;
काट लेगा अंग तीखी है बड़ी यह धार ||

तो लब्बोलुआब यह है कि ये फ़ेसबुक ट्विटर आदि दोधारी तलवार हैं. आप इनका प्रयोग करके राष्ट्र निर्माण भी कर सकते हैं, और अनर्गल प्रलाप के लिए भी. या फिर आप मेरे जैसे समाधिस्थ भी रह सकते हैं. समाधि का अर्थ है: सम+ आधि. अर्थात आप संतुलन बना कर रख सकते हैं, दोनो तरफ के तर्क सुन सकते हैं, उन पर विचार कर सकते हैं, एक सूचित राय कायम कर सकते हैं, लेकिन किसी की राय बदलना आपके(वो भी बल पूर्वक) कार्यक्रम का हिस्सा नही होना चाहिए.

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We-the-people in Dance-of-Democracy

Posted by Sudeep Pandey on March 29, 2014

Off late there are so many political posts in social media with people supporting for Rahul Gandhi or Arvind Kejriwal or Narendra Modi. But I dont see the debate on what they say about the leader they support… Alas, we only talk about what the other leader didn’t do.
– I will not vote for Modi because Gujarat development was not done by him alone: OK, what about developments done by Rahul Gandhi and Arvind Kejriwal?
– I will not vote for Rahul Gandhi because congress government has scams: OK, does BJP government or third front governments were scam free? Dont you see that even people of AAP are also asking for Money?
– I will not vote for Arvind Kejriwal because he is still holding his government quarter? OK.. do i really need to give counter example on this one? Satyapal Singh for one is still on his house in Mumbai, So is Mira Kumar holding two houses in Delhi… The examples are countless.

I can argue on both sides, but the point i am trying to make is how hollow is our support arguments! We are turning blind eye towards the leader we adore, forget all his shortcomings, and try to poke around even the smallest of the issue in other leader.

But that is not the point for which i am writing this post. This is about an ulterior issue which, either no one looks at, or at least no one wants to ponder upon. The point is simple:

No person or party would do what they have committed or what they are promising right now either in their rallies or election manifesto unless they have complete majority (2/3 seats) or at least simple majority (1/2 seats).

Small parties, when asked to join the govt to complete this number, do blackmail the major party running the government and either the big brother bows down to their demand or resign… Either ways we, the people, loose… And it will keep on happening unless there is a complete majority for one party. You love one political leader, one ideology is one thing… but if that one is not going to get the majority, you’d probably do more harm to him and the country by voting for him than for the one who can provide a stable government. 2009 election cost 2000 Cr on public treasury ( and 4 times more by the candidates and parties), and God only knows how much will be this time, considering inflation and other economic factors, but don’t you think if there are re-elections, it is ultimately we, the people, who’d pay?

If i’d honestly look around, it would be a fantasy and a romantic thought to have a corruption free government. WHY? Because we, the people, are corrupt.. And the leaders do not come from outside universe… they are someone or the other from amongst us… Unless we change ourselves, there will be no end to corruption… But on the other hand, look at China, one of the world famous corrupt government, and yet see the development. I never saw anyone claiming there is no corruption in US or UK. Corruption is everywhere… but their government still delivers..

I see the trend in Indian politics these days… All smaller parties look for 20+ seats.. Thats it!! They know it, that no party is going to get a majority at the centre and each of these 20+ seats will THEN come for a cost!! A berth in cabinet, a blind eye towards what they are doing in their ministry or the parent state.. the leaders be obliged with clean chits from CBI on various corruption cases.. what not!! Hell !! Sometime they could also influence the foreign policy ( Voting against Sri Lanka last year is glaring example of the same) which is supposedly independent of any party at the center!! Remember the FDI in retail proposal of Economists like Manmohan Singh shot down by Communist parties? I dont know if these decisions were correct or not, but the point i am trying to make is: It is a party which has very small number of presence in country and in Lok Sabha, and yet they made the central govt do what they wanted to do. And you know what? We, the people, give them the power to do so!!

Voting for all the regional parties at Lok Sabha election is probably not the best thing in my opinion, and that is what we always do. Vote for them in local body elections, vote for them in State assembly elections, but when it comes to central elections, think of it before you vote. Your vote can really make a change.

We, the people, think we are the juggler in this dance of democracy. But alas, we are played nicely by the leaders who project themselves as monkeys dancing on our command, but in essence, it is exactly the other way round.

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Casticism

Posted by Sudeep Pandey on January 22, 2011

There were very old days, as we read in Vedas, when people were identified and tagged with a caste,based on what profession they were in. Castes were not inherited from father to son… And anyone based on their merits/demerits was identified as brahmin/vaishya/kshatriya/shudra. Then came an era when they started to inherit it from fathers and forefathers.. Principally it was not correct and there were a lot of movements, many enlightened souls, who tried to eradicate this casticism in pre-Independence era. Our government is “strictly against” any such policy. Or at least so I hear. What baffles me is the fact that why they still have almost every government form for any application have this column called religion and caste?? They were suppose to diminish this line of division, isn’t it? How could they eradicate this casticism by associating every Indian to his/her caste and almost identifying everyone by their caste? Some learned souls now even want census based on caste…. God!! what do I do with my politicians….

P.S.: I have been out of it since long… some more pressing things in life made it impossible to continue here. But a few people I listen to, made me come back.

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A party dying slowly…

Posted by Sudeep Pandey on August 25, 2009

While I was growing up and just started to understand governance and politics, it was dawn of Mandal era with V. P. Singh coming up with his great brainstorming idea of reservations for backwards. The images of young people setting fire to themselves been shown on TV are something which are here to stay in my (then too young) memory for years to come. I could not understand the whole idea, and even now I am not too sure if this was a good or bad idea but those images have made me hate such politicians. I personally never hated/discriminated/befriended/envied any other human-being just because of his/her caste or religion. Then came the great idea of Babri mosque in Ayodhya by BJP. Yet again I found countrymen being divided on the basis of religion. As a young mind, I failed to understand why we can’t be just Indian? One sole identity bound by the constitution of India? I hated them as well… Now comes the infamous Narsimha Rao’s congress government with Harshad Mehta’s allegations and JMM bribery scandal.  I hated them as well…

So, when it actually came to the time when I was allowed to vote for the first time in my life, I was to decide between third front, congress and BJP (and few others). It was something like picking the best amongst the worse. I chose BJP!! The sole reason was few things in their agenda which I admired to the core, namely removal of article370 and common civil code for all Indians.

Article 370 because this is THE reason why Kashmir was not progressing. That was the time of heightened terrorist attacks in Kashmir valley. Young kashmiri boys were lured to become terrorists! Because they don’t have anything else to do! Because there is no economy or industrial progress in the valley! Because this article hinders any outsider to come and setup industry in Kashmir! Why do we discriminate people of Kashmir with anyone residing elsewhere in Indian Territory? This article was a follow-up of UN resolution to maintain status-quo so as to take a mandate in Kashmir, the resolution which we ourselves have discarded in 1971 Shimla agreement!! I couldn’t comprehend why do we need to maintain this article and let people of the valley suffer? Same goes for common civil code. We all are Indians first and then anything else. Though we are free to follow whichever religion we want to, we should at least have common civil laws. Variable laws for same actions based on ones religion was something again beyond me. Though they had few things in their agenda I didn’t like but yes I was ready to give a chance to someone new to bring fresh ideas into the system. The party was led by Atal Bihari Vajpayee; one of the most admired politicians and was full of intellectuals which were not blood related to each other or not the sons/daughters of senior leaders. And the infamous confidence-vote lost by BJP because Giridhar Gomago was allowed to vote despite being CM of Orissa again made me feel that BJP led government was taken down by manipulation. That too when this government made India proud by Pokharan-II without bowing against all the economic sanctions imposed by UN and other countries.

That was the BJP I loved!! That was the party I admired!! The party which was democratic, who thought about the nation first! Today’s BJP is nowhere near to what it was those days. The downfall I guess had started after Vajpayee left BJP and active politics. His leaving party created a vacuum which Advani tried to fill in but failed terribly. And the last loksabha elections were the last nail in the coffin. Even sitting in the opposition for last five years, they had never looked towards the benchmarks set by Atalji who, while in opposition, praised whole-heartedly Indira Gandhi and called her as “Durga” when she went on with nuclear tests. All Advani did was opposing to everything which government is doing including nuclear deal with US. They might be correct but they had never been able to present their stand in front of common man who was still facing the rise in inflation and still waiting for basic amenities to be given to him. The split between Arun Jaitley and Sudhanshu Mittal during the election had all the desired results. The party is slowly and gradually becoming the next congress party. Expelling Jaswant Singh in first 30 minutes of “Chintan baithak” without giving him a chance to clarify his stand, while Advani doing almost similar thing was spared, shows the kind of democracy is prevailing inside the BJP. Senior leaders like Arun Shourie and Yashvant Sinha writing to president of setting responsibilities to the person(s) responsible for such defeat fell into deaf ears. Lobbying and marksmanship is at peak, and the common-civil-code that BJP had promised for whole India does not exist in party itself. probably Aurn Shourie would be the next one to be shown the way out and Sudhindra Kulkarni has already resigned because of ideological differences with the party.

Its tragic to see the party dying in such a way which I once considered as the future of Indian politics.

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what is between mulayam and reservation: they are “just friends”

Posted by Sudeep Pandey on June 10, 2009

The flag-bearer of reservation in school/collage/govt. jobs/private jobs and where not for ST/SC/OBC/muslims and who else not, our own mr. mulayam singh yadav has now some problems with the woman reservation bill… Reason? Now he thinks that if this reservation is implemented, people (his exact words were “Leaders like Murli Manohar Joshi, Sharad Yadav, Basudeb Acharya have reached this stage not in one day but through hard struggles” ) who have worked hard all their life will be deprived of what they deserved… wonderful, isn’t it?

So now we have two categories of what one deserves after their hard work:
1) Students from upper caste (incidentally who have no hand whatsoever in deciding which caste of family they would like to be born in), who slog, study hard, and yet denied admission in good collages due to reservation. Professionals who work hard to get a position in an organization but are again denied because the seats are reserved.
2) The most elite class of India, the political leaders: Who work hard to earn (perhaps snatch would be the correct word) every single penny which would have been used in public welfare and development. Now that the Indian politics has largely been dominated by male, and those set of people have created their own place in this system, are now afraid of their horizon being shortened because now 33% of them will not be given an opportunity for “hard-work” which they’d been doing till now.

Remember, this was the same Mulayam singh yadav, who had implemented the decision of providing seats to reserved candidates in medical/engineering collage even if they’ve got 0 (zero) marks in entrance exam.

And I was thinking that only I am insane.

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Alarming situation in Pakistan

Posted by Sudeep Pandey on April 24, 2009

With every passing day the situation of pakistan is increasingly making me more afraid of its consequences. The latest thing being Buner held by Talibans and their counter-assault on forces sent to save people there. And the worst part is the policitians there are still clueless about what to do next. The more I read in news and internet about the situation (and I read quite a lot, from different and diverse sources, to have unbiased assessment), I now tend to believe even the people of pakistan have gone in denial mode which is not good. They still think that its India which is behind this… I mean grow up people! They are merely 100 Kms from your national capital. And you are still cribbing over the drone-attacks on afghan border and Indian presence in Afghanistan? I know its a mutual tendency of both country’s nationals to blame everything on each others country, but accepting sharia law in swat, cease-fire with talibans, dont tell me Indian “RAW” has infiltrated pakistan government to such an extent to have whatever executive decisions be made for themselves. I am scared because the day Pakistan goes down to talibans, India would be first recipient of the attacks by those fanatics.

Indian government is not a bit less either. They are sending NSA to Sri Lanka where LTTE is fighting lost battle.

In the meantime Indian people are enjoying IPL as well as elections. I cant enjoy either.

I hope and pray to God that sense will prevail before its too late.

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Emergence of new Indian voter

Posted by Sudeep Pandey on January 8, 2009

Shibu Soren, the CM of Jharkhand has lost the by-election in Tamar assembly seat.

For all, who have a short-term-memory-loss problem, it all started with famous nuclear deal, and the then chief minister Madhu Koda has to give way to Soren as CM (a deal mediated by our very own Lalu Yadav) in lieu of 5 “precious” votes for the nuclear deal in parliament. He has taken the office on 27 august 2008 and since he was not the member of house, he was supposed to get elected as a member within 6 months. So technically he still has a good 2 months left before he will be forced out of CM’s office, being a running CM and then loosing an assembly election (keeping in mind, its India) and when whole government functionary would be forced to work out the favorable result, shows the new face of Indian voter!!

Kudos people!!

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Have we come down to this?

Posted by Sudeep Pandey on December 13, 2008

I have never been in such a state of dilemma before… Ever since I have studied geography as a subject (perhaps it was standard II or III), I have always been taught, rather shown, following as the map of India:
 

Map of India

Map of India

The above picture has actually been taken from http://india.gov.in/maps/indiaindex.php which, I believe, is maintained by some Indian government authorities. The only change I made to it is the straight line you can see on the top of Indian map… I’ve tried to show you guys the location of Muzaffarabad. That’s the city from where Pakistan authorities have detained a guy called Rehman Lakhvi, who has supposedly masterminded the Mumbai attacks where more than 150 people died and it’s the same place where terrorists who walked into Mumbai hotels have been trained. I have seen video footage on TV a number of times about terrorist camps running there (I am pretty sure my esteemed government must also have seen it as well). My intelligent intelligence agencies have been saying it for so long. They have shown the proof of it to US as well (like a first grader goes to his teacher saying “teacher, teacher… he slapped me… please punish him”).

So we come right to the point. I am confused… you know, asking Pakistan government to capture and crack down those terror camps in muzaffarabad is something like there is a fire at a corner in my home (indeed if I claim that part does belong to my home), and I have enough fire extinguishers with me, but I put all my weight behind a demand to my neighbour that he should extinguish it!! Why the situation is similar? The only reason, my friend, is above map. It claims muzaffarabad is a part of India, and if, you know that there are terror camps, where people get training to come to other parts of India and kill, You should have a moral responsibility to clean up the mess. You just have to pass an order to send your fighters there, and they are well equipped to take care of it. I have seen enough of their strengths during Kargil and the rest they’ve shown in Mumbai! But it’s the order that they require from you. You didn’t do it in 1971, you didn’t do it in 2003 and now again the question is facing you…

But if you don’t have the guts to pass that order: you spineless people, you filthy people, please stop showing that region as a part of your country. You don’t understand what character you’re showing by an act like this. You are showing you are a coward! You don’t have the balls to take the heat and act! And you are willingly ready to let people die because of cowardice of yours! You know what? When people die, they are dead! They can’t come back even after you do some diplomatic voo-doo! And after all this, you still (shamelessly) claim that it is part of India?

We, the descendants of Rama, Krishna, Arjuna, Guru Gobind Singh, Rana Pratap and Shivaji who lived for their people and who died for their people; have we come down to this? That’s the question you should think about…

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Time for action

Posted by Sudeep Pandey on December 5, 2008

I have been reading and hearing this since long that 26 November will be remembered in the history of India as India’s 9/11. I have initially been moved by the images that I saw on TV of how tragic and horrible a terror act can be. And like everyone else I cursed politicians for their inability, corruption and what not. And I cried when I saw peoples of the likes of Hemant Karkare, Vijay Salaskar and Ashok Kamte dying on the line of duty. And I am proud of being in a country which is guarded by such officers. And I like everyone else happily clapped for my brave commandos after they have cleaned up the whole mess. But few things have still been mystery for me as far as people of India goes…

I am seeing everyone walking with candles lit in their hand for mourning people who died in Mumbai, a gesture which I rarely saw when exactly similar things happened in Kashmir or elsewhere in India. I have never seen people talking about Major Anshu Saxena of Rashtriya Rifles who died in a night long battle in 2001 fighting with terrorist in Kupwara. I have never seen such marches for Army Majors- Dinesh Raghuraman and K P Vinay who laid their life fighting against terrorist in Tangmarg in 2007. And there had been number of unsung heroes dying in many other parts of India. I can list a number of occasions like these when I felt the pain very much similar to what I felt when I saw Hotel Taj burning. And every time my initial reactions had been same that these ministers and politicians are good for nothing. And then I decided to do my precious little to make thing better. I tried to follow the agenda of political parties and tried to choose the one among the best. And I voted!! Unlike most of the people in India for whom, voting day is a holiday given by government of India when they can sit back in their home, mown their lawns, fix their driller which is not working since long or lie down watching TV, I go out and vote. These people cry to throw away these chief-ministers, home ministers etc for they have not done their duty properly, I ask them: Have you done your constitutional duty?? Have you voted?? Why shouldn’t I ask you to be thrown away into Arabian Sea because you are the one who has not done his/her duty to elect a capable person and hence 183 people in Mumbai died? You say these politicians are dooming the nation, OK, if you think you can do this job better then them, then come, move forward and lead from the front. But till you are not involved in it or you are not doing your precious little to make this better, you have not right to curse them.

And there is another class of voters (first one being those who don’t vote at all): this class who think about whom to vote based on everything under the sun except betterment of their life and their country. They see if the candidate is his/her relative, relative of a relative, friend, friend of a friend, or if nothing works then is he/she of same caste/religion as me, all in exact order. But I consider them better than the ones who don’t even take effort to go to nearest polling station…. See now you have to go to a peace march to gateway of India.

It reminds me of one incidence between Sardar Vallabh bhai Patel and his personal secretary. I might give you the detailed description of what happened then some other time in another post, but it was about a clause to be added to constitution which his personal secretary was not in favor of and he knew that even Sardar thinks of the same and yet he supported it in constitutional assembly. When he confronted sardar, he replied with something like this, “Look, for one, this is not a permanent clause. Let it be there for some time. When the next generation will understand how bad it is for us, they will amend it. And if they do not understand its bad, they would anyways go down taking our country and constitution along with them”. Now I can see he was right. We do not understand our power of Vote and we are taking our country down with us.  And you know what. I never liked the idea of the peace-march as I have been seeing these days. People come out with some posters, banners which have very emotionally charged lines written on it. They sat down for prayer or offer condolences for people died or raise slogans. And then they go back home and wait for another such thing to happen so that they can do the same exercise yet again. They say, they are showing that we are united at this time of distress. All right I hear that! But then what?? Nothing? I once heard someone went to visit Niagara fall and exclaimed,”Oh!! It’s a pity so much water is flowing down from which we could have produced a lot of electricity”.  So do not waste such huge mass-movement to show just unity. Make sure you give them clear recommendation of how these things can be or might be avoided. Ask them to go and vote! Vote for the right people who could bring well-being for the society, those who can save us from such attacks. This is one such weapon with which we as an individual can make a difference.

My appeal to all my readers is: Please go out and vote. Think and vote. Rise above caste, religion and state and think about your country as a whole. This is for your own safety and benefit. You might have never cried and conveniently ignored when people in Kashmir died and see now they came right into your backyard. Don’t make an excuse that everyone in candidate’s list is equally corrupt. Use “49-0”(see note below), if you think nobody deserve to win. But say it! It will never help saying “enough is enough”! Let them realize that you are monitoring them!! Tell them their wrong doings won’t go unpunished!! And their good works will be awarded!! Tell them that you, an Indian citizen, are the boss!!

This too shall not pass!!

Note:
1. 49-O.   Elector  deciding  not  to  vote.-If  an  elector,  after  his electoral  roll number has been duly entered in the register of voters in  Form-17A and has put his signature or thumb impression thereon  as required  under  sub-rule (1) of rule 49L, decided not to  record  his vote,  a remark to this effect shall be made against the said entry in Form 17A by the presiding officer and the signature or the thumb impression of the elector shall be obtained against such remark. (Taken from  http://lawmin.nic.in/ld/subord/cer1.htm)

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Honourable Governor Sir…

Posted by Sudeep Pandey on November 13, 2008

Now I am surprised!!

I have just read news about an all-party-meeting convened by the chief-minister of Maharashtra, “to discuss the Anti-North Indian agitation by the MNS,” and expressed concern over the “maligning of Maharashtra’s image in the country despite the state having an all-encompassing culture”.

Sir, we are not blind or deaf or dumb. You need an all-party meeting to decide how/why to ensure that an “Indian” national can enjoy its fundamental right given to it by “Indian” constitution? And you and your government takes 7-10 days to decide whether or not to arrest a man who claims he and his men have (rightfully??) beaten fellow countrymen? And when people ask you (that is you as CM and your government of the state of Maharashtra) questions, it automatically converts into maligning of state’s image?

As such, I really don’t care what you and all other political parties (here or erstwhile India) say about anything because you are into politics and politicians are notorious for enjoying their freedom of speech (that again comes under fundamental rights from our constitution). What really surprised (and rather shocked) me was the statement given by governor’s office, after this delegation went to Raj-Bhavan, on the same. It said “the state government had the duty to uphold Marathi pride and address the issues of its people” and that “outsiders need not interfere in internal matters of the state.”

The post of Governor in a state is the representative of President of India and is responsible for upholding the constitution above all else. I really admire the intellect of the peoples involved in formulating the constitution of India for they would have foresaw the politics involved in any and all issues in a democracy and hence have created such posts.

I would have been grateful if the statement (since coming out of Governor’s office) would have been something like “the state government had the duty to uphold Marathi pride and address the issues of its people in addition to upholding the fundamental rights given to an Indian national”.
And about the internal matters of state vs. outsiders, Respected Sir, it is quite true that the constitution says that maintaining law-and-order is state-government’s duty but then it also has provisions for central government to act when the state-government fails to do its duty. Please be aware of the fact that when I hear word like “internal matter” from an esteemed office of a Governor of a state, I draw only constitutional meaning out of it and not the political one.

All said and done, I would like to (re)request to all my fellow countrymen, please try to be an Indian first and then a Hindu or Muslim or Christian or Marathi or Bihari. And that calls for respecting our constitution above anything whatsoever.

United we stand, divided we fall!

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